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Geoffrey de Say, son and heir of William de Say. de Say Geoffrey King and council....
Catalogue reference: SC 8/260/12955
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This record is about the Geoffrey de Say, son and heir of William de Say. de Say Geoffrey King and council.... dating from [1307-1327] in the series Special Collections: Ancient Petitions. It is held at The National Archives, Kew.
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Reference (The unique identifier to the record described, used to order and refer to it)
- SC 8/260/12955
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Date (When the record was created)
- [1307-1327]
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Description (What the record is about)
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- Petitioners
- Geoffrey de Say, son and heir of William de Say.
- Name(s)
- de Say, Geoffrey
- Addressees
- King and council.
- Nature of request
- Geoffrey de Say, son and heir of William de Say, states that Adam de Bavent and his ancestors held two knights' fees of him and his ancestors, and that because of this William and his ancestors always had the wardship and marriage of every ancestor of Adam's who was under age, and relief from those who were of age, and that William lately had the wardship of Adam's son and heir Roger, until it was wrongly taken from him by the King's father. William came before the Treasurer and Barons of the Exchequer in the late King's twenty-first year and asked that it might be returned to him, and was told that it had been found that Adam held [a knight's fee] in Hatcham in Surrey of the King in chief as of the crown, so that the wardship belonged to him. Geoffrey is ready to aver in any way that the court decides that Adam held nothing of the crown, in Hatcham or elsewhere, and asks that this wrongful judgment might be overturned, and that the wardship might be returned to him, together with the issues in the meantime.
- Nature of endorsement
- Because the wardship mentioned here was in the King's hand through those from the Exchequer, the Treasurer and Barons are to be ordered that, when they have seen and inspected the inquisitions and other memoranda in the Exchequer concerning that capture, and when Geoffrey's arguments on this have been heard, they are duly to do full justice to him on the contents of the petition.
- Places mentioned
- Attesham (Hatcham), Surrey
- Suffolk
- Whitfield, Kent.
- People mentioned
- William de Say
- Adam de Bavent
- Roger [de Bavent], son and heir of Adam de Bavent
- [Edward I], King of England
- [William] de la Marche (March), Treasurer of England.
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Held by (Who holds the record)
- The National Archives, Kew
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Legal status (A note as to whether the record being described is a Public Record or not)
- Public Record(s)
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Language (The language of the record)
- French
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Closure status (Whether the record is ‘open’ (available to the public) or ‘closed’ (not available due to a legal exemption))
- Open Document, Open Description
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Record URL
- https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9516899/
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SC 8
Special Collections: Ancient Petitions
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