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Transferred to SC 5/8/6 and subsequently to C 47/8/1
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The Master and brothers of the Hospital of the Maison Dieu (Hospital of St Mary)...
Catalogue reference: SC 8/43/2125
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Reference (The unique identifier to the record described, used to order and refer to it)
- SC 8/43/2125
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Date (When the record was created)
- [c. 1315]
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Description (What the record is about)
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- Petitioners
- The Master and brothers of the Hospital of the Maison Dieu (Hospital of St Mary) of Dover
- Addressees
- King and council
- Nature of request
- The Master and brothers of the Hospital of the Maison Dieu of Dover, which was founded by the king's ancestors and other good people to receive poor people going overseas and coming from overseas at Dover, state that the king recently asked them, by his writ, to find maintenance for life for John Lamb, his mariner of Dover, which they have done, and that he has now sent William son of Thomas le Charetter of Grove and Henry de Oldyngton with similar writs. If they are to support all these people it will be a great drain on their resources, and harm their ability to provide the alms for which they were founded, and so they request a remedy which will enable them to sustain these alms.
- Nature of endorsement
- Before the king (coram rege), whether he wishes to accept these excuses or not.
- Places mentioned
- Dover, [Kent]
- Grove, [Kent]
- People mentioned
- John Lamb, mariner of Dover
- William [le Charetter (Carter)], son of Thomas le Charetter (Carter) of Grove
- Henry de Oldyngton
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Note (Additional information about the record)
- CCR 1313-18 p.192 (the order sending William son of Thomas le Charetter of Grove to the Hospital of St John, Brackley) is dated at York, 12 August 1314: whether this is as an alternative to Dover, or whether he was sent on there is unclear.CCR 1313-8 p.220 (the first order sending Henry de Oldyngton to Dover) is dated at Windsor, 26 March 1315, and the second order sending him there, CCR 1313-8 p.319, is dated at Clipston, 6 January 1316. The order sending him to Barking, CCR 1313-8 p.437, is dated at York, 17 November 1316. This does seem to be an alternative, after he was refused at Dover, so it seems reasonable to date this petition to c. 1315.
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Held by (Who holds the record)
- The National Archives, Kew
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Former department reference (Former identifier given by the originating creator)
- Parliamentary Petition 2511
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Legal status (A note as to whether the record being described is a Public Record or not)
- Public Record(s)
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Language (The language of the record)
- French
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Closure status (Whether the record is ‘open’ (available to the public) or ‘closed’ (not available due to a legal exemption))
- Open Document, Open Description
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Publication note(s) (A note of publications related to the record)
- Calendar of Close Rolls, Edw II, vol. II, 1313-1318, (Public Record Office, 1893), p.192 (order to the Master and brothers of the Hospital of St John, Brackley, to provide maintenance for William son of Thomas le Charetter of Grove) & p.220 (Henry de Oldyngton is sent to the Master and brothers of God's House, Dover, to receive maintenance there) & p.319 (Henry de Oldyngton is again sent to the Master and brothers of God's House, Dover, to receive maintenance there) & p.437 (Henry de Oldyngton is sent to the Abbess and convent of Barking, to receive maintenance there)
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Record URL
- https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9062331/
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