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Transferred to SC 5/8/6 and subsequently to C 47/8/1
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Herbert la fiz Johan (Fitz John). fiz Johan (Fitz John) Herbert King and council....
Catalogue reference: SC 8/317/E273
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Reference (The unique identifier to the record described, used to order and refer to it)
- SC 8/317/E273
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Date (When the record was created)
- [c. 1314]
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Description (What the record is about)
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- Petitioners
- Herbert la fiz Johan (Fitz John).
- Name(s)
- fiz Johan (Fitz John), Herbert
- Addressees
- King and council.
- Nature of request
- Fiz Johan requests remedy and that he is able to make a fine as he was granted the reversion of the manors of Woolverton, Market Weighton and Chirton by Fitz Reginald, and because the manors were held in chief, he approached Chancery and requested the chancellor that he be able to make a fine, and the chancellor ordered inquisitions to be made to enquire if it be to the king's damage, and although they found that it was not to the damage and they were returned into Chancery the chancellor and treasurer have still not assented to receive the fine.
- Nature of endorsement
- [None].
- Places mentioned
- Woolverton, [Hampshire]
- Market Weighton, [East Riding of Yorkshire]
- Chirton, [Wiltshire].
- People mentioned
- John le fiz Reynaud (Fitz Reginald).
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Note (Additional information about the record)
- The petition dates to c. 1314 as the escheator was ordered to deliver the manors to another claimant on 17 October 1314. It seems unlikely that the petition can have been too distant in date from this order [CFR 1307-19, p.215]. In addition the inquisition ad quod damnum probably referred to in the petition survives as C 143/104/17 and dates to 8 Edw. II.
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Related material (A cross-reference to other related records)
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For the inquisition ad quod damnum referred to in the petition, see C 143/104/17
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Held by (Who holds the record)
- The National Archives, Kew
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Legal status (A note as to whether the record being described is a Public Record or not)
- Public Record(s)
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Language (The language of the record)
- French
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Closure status (Whether the record is ‘open’ (available to the public) or ‘closed’ (not available due to a legal exemption))
- Open Document, Open Description
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Publication note(s) (A note of publications related to the record)
- Calendar of Fine Rolls, vol. II, Edw II, 1307-1319, (Public Record Office, 1912), pp.214-5 (order to deliver the manors to another claimant)
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Record URL
- https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9529325/
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SC 8
Special Collections: Ancient Petitions
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