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Transferred to SC 5/8/6 and subsequently to C 47/8/1
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John de Trailly, son and heir of Walter de Trailly. de Trailly John King and council....
Catalogue reference: SC 8/257/12837
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This record is about the John de Trailly, son and heir of Walter de Trailly. de Trailly John King and council.... dating from [? c. 1298] in the series Special Collections: Ancient Petitions. It is held at The National Archives, Kew.
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Reference (The unique identifier to the record described, used to order and refer to it)
- SC 8/257/12837
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Date (When the record was created)
- [? c. 1298]
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Description (What the record is about)
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- Petitioners
- John de Trailly, son and heir of Walter de Trailly.
- Name(s)
- de Trailly, John
- Addressees
- King and council.
- Nature of request
- John de Trailly, son and heir of Walter de Trailly, who held of the King in chief, states that his father leased the manor of Ludgershall in Buckinghamshire to master William de Lue for term of life for £40 annually. William lived for three years after Walter, and during that time he paid nothing to the King, in whose hand the lands were because of John's minority. After William's death the King took the manor into his hand, and after a dispute between John's friends, on his behalf, and William Touchet, William's heir, it was adjudged that William had no right to the manor, which would remain in the King's hand until John's majority. William continued to sue, and brought an assize of novel disseisin. John could not be present through illness and answered through a bailiff, for the King his guardian and for himself; but the assize went against him and now damages have been awarded against John and are being demanded of him. He requests a remedy, and asks that the manor might be taken back into the King's hand, as a judgment was brought on the King's seisin without consulting him, and that John might answer to everyone on this according to the common law.
- Nature of endorsement
- Petitions which have been answered.In Chancery by master G. de Roub[irs].He is to have a writ to have the record produced.
- Places mentioned
- Ludgershall, Buckinghamshire.
- People mentioned
- Walter de Trailly, father of petitioner
- William de Lue (Louth), [Bishop of Ely]
- William Touchet
- Ellis Pugeis, sub-escheator of Buckinghamshire
- Walter de Gloucestre (Gloucester), Escheator south of the Trent
- Roger Brabazoun
- Gilbert de Roubirs (Rothbury).
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Note (Additional information about the record)
- William of Louth died in March 1298, and the writ for CIPM, vol. III no.482 is dated 7 June 26 Edward I (1298). CFR 1272-1307 p.267 is dated 21 November 1289, and CCR 1296-1302 p.184 is dated 5 November 1298. This petition would seem to date from around this time, or shortly afterwards.
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Held by (Who holds the record)
- The National Archives, Kew
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Legal status (A note as to whether the record being described is a Public Record or not)
- Public Record(s)
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Language (The language of the record)
- French
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Closure status (Whether the record is ‘open’ (available to the public) or ‘closed’ (not available due to a legal exemption))
- Open Document, Open Description
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Publication note(s) (A note of publications related to the record)
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- Calendar of Close Rolls, Edw I, vol. IV, 1296-1302, (Public Record Office, 1906), p.184 (order to retain the manor of Ludgershall in the King's hand)
- Calendar of Fine Rolls, vol. I, Edw I, 1272-1307, (Public Record Office, 1911), p.267 (order to the Escheator to take into the King's hands the lands of Walter de Trailly
- Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, vol. III, 20-28-Edw I, (Public Record Office, 1912), no.482 (inquisition for William, Bishop of Ely, concerning this manor)
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Record URL
- https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9440449/
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