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Robert del Isdle (Lisle) and the men and tenants of Wharfedale. Isdle (Lisle) Robert...

Catalogue reference: SC 8/257/12832

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SC 8/257/12832
Date
[? 1327]
Description
Petitioners
Robert del Isdle (Lisle) and the men and tenants of Wharfedale.
Name(s)
Isdle (Lisle), Robert
Addressees
King and council.
Nature of request
Robert del Isdle and the men and tenants of Wharfedale state that they petitioned the King in the last parliament at Westminster by a petition, the transcript of which is sewn to this petition, stating that although King John, lord of the manor and forest of Knaresborough, had brought Wharfedale into that forest, when it was not of the fee or lordship of Knaresborough and had never been within forest, he was later better advised and removed it from the forest, granting the men and tenants of Wharfedale a charter to this effect, a transcript of which is sewn to this petition. But William de Ireby, Steward of Richard, Earl of Cornwall, wrongly charged the people of Wharfedale with puture of the forest and other charges and customs, and the ministers of the present King have continued to do this. This petition was answered that the charter should be examined and allowed, and that they should be quit of these charges, and writs were issued to the King's ministers to cease their demands, and other writs to the ministers of Queen Isabella, in whose hands the manor and forest are; but they continue to charge and harass the petitioners as before. They ask for a judgment that the first judgment be allowed.
Nature of endorsement
Because this thing was previously assented to and adjudged in full parliament, which is a very high judgment and made in the highest court in the land, execution is to be made of the first judgment; and the Steward and other necessary people are to be ordered to cease etc., and to allow the tenants to make their profits according to the first judgment, and not to do anything to the harm or contrary to the judgment, on pain of the appropriate penalty for those who contravene such a high judgment. And if they do not obey, a strict process is to be followed against those who are disobedient.
Places mentioned
Wharfedale, [West Riding of Yorkshire]
Westminster
Knaresborough, [West Riding of Yorkshire].
People mentioned
John, King of England
Richard, Earl of Cornwall
William de Ireby, Steward of Richard, Earl of Cornwall
Isabella [of France], Queen of England.
Note
CCR 1327-30 pp.146-147 is dated 12 July 1327, and would seem to be in response to this petition, or perhaps to an earlier related one. This petition is printed in Rot. Parl. vol.II p.24a-b (no. 31) as belonging to 2 Edward III (25 January 1328-24 January 1329).
Related material

For a related petition, see SC 8/11/504

For a copy of a related charter of King John, formerly attached to SC 8/11/504, see SC 8/11/505

Held by
The National Archives, Kew
Legal status
Public Record(s)
Language
French
Closure status
Open Document, Open Description
Publication note(s)
  • Calendar of Close Rolls, Edw III, vol. I, 1327-1330, (Public Record Office, 1896), pp.146-7 (order to the justices to proceed in this matter)
  • Rotuli Parliamentorum; ut et Petitiones, et Placita in Parliamento, vol. II, Edw III, (Record Commission, 1783), p.24a-b (no.31) (full edition of later copy of original petition and charter of King John removing Wharfedale from the forest)
  • The Parliament Rolls of Medieval England, Ed. Paul Brand, Anne Curry, Chris Given-Wilson, Rosemary Horrox, W.M. Ormrod and J.R.S. Phillips, (Cambridge University Press, 2005), Appendix of Unedited Petitions, 1307-1337, Rotuli Parliamentorum II, pp.13-30, no.31 (summary of references)
Record URL
https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9440444/

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