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Transferred to SC 5/8/6 and subsequently to C 47/8/1
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Commons. King and Council. The commons state that it is the custom that, if any person...
Catalogue reference: SC 8/223/11127
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This record is about the Commons. King and Council. The commons state that it is the custom that, if any person... dating from [1377] in the series Special Collections: Ancient Petitions. It is held at The National Archives, Kew.
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Reference (The unique identifier to the record described, used to order and refer to it)
- SC 8/223/11127
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Date (When the record was created)
- [1377]
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Description (What the record is about)
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- Petitioners
- Commons.
- Addressees
- King and Council.
- Nature of request
- The commons state that it is the custom that, if any person falls to their death into the sea from a ship, that ship is forfeited to the king or any other lord of a franchise as a deodand. They claim that this is to the damage of many mariners and to the king's navy, and ask that such forfeitures be discontinued.
- Nature of endorsement
- [on face] No such deodands should be adjudged in the sea, but in fresh water the king should have his grace if he pleases.
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Note (Additional information about the record)
- A version of this petition appears on the parliament roll for the Hilary parliament of 1377. The editors of PROME suggest that the present petition may be a copy of that enrolment, rather than the original from which the enrolment was made.
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Related material (A cross-reference to other related records)
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For a similar petition see SC 8/109/5445
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Held by (Who holds the record)
- The National Archives, Kew
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Legal status (A note as to whether the record being described is a Public Record or not)
- Public Record(s)
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Language (The language of the record)
- French
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Closure status (Whether the record is ‘open’ (available to the public) or ‘closed’ (not available due to a legal exemption))
- Open Document, Open Description
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Publication note(s) (A note of publications related to the record)
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- Rotuli Parliamentorum; ut et Petitiones, et Placita in Parliamento, vol. II, Edw III, (Record Commission, 1783), p.372 (version of petition on parliament roll)
- The Parliament Rolls of Medieval England, Ed. Paul Brand, Anne Curry, Chris Given-Wilson, Rosemary Horrox, W.M. Ormrod and J.R.S. Phillips, (Cambridge University Press, 2005), parliament of January 1377, appendix no. 7 (summary of petition)
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Record URL
- https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9334687/
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SC 8
Special Collections: Ancient Petitions
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