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Robert de Thorp, son and heir of John de Thorp. de Thorp Robert King and council....

Catalogue reference: SC 8/166/8297

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Reference
SC 8/166/8297
Date
[1325]
Description
Petitioners
Robert de Thorp, son and heir of John de Thorp.
Name(s)
de Thorp, Robert
Addressees
King and council.
Nature of request
Robert, son and heir of John de Thorp states that the manor of Combs in Suffolk is held of the king in chief for an annual fee farm, which fell to the king through the forfeiture of Ralph Avenel, Norman, of whom Bartholomew de Crek, Robert's ancestor, held the manor for the aforesaid farm. After the death of John de Thorp, the escheator, by a writ of diem clausit extremum, at the suit of Alice, John's widow, seized and held the manor until Robert, through ignorance, did homage to the king - and he then had his seisin. The escheator has levied and taken the issues in the meantime, and he is also distrained by the sheriff of Suffolk for relief. Robert has sued to chancery for a remedy, until now at Pentecost, when the chancellor has adjourned him to parliament. He requests a remedy if law or reason demands it, quoting two points of Magna Carta in support of his case, and attaching copies of a certification of the exchequer, the writ of diem clausit extremum and the subsequent inquisition.
Nature of endorsement
It should follow in Chancery the response otherwise thus made before the King.
Places mentioned
Combs, Suffolk
Norfolk.
People mentioned
John de Thorp
Ralph Avenel
Bartholomew de Crek
Alice [de Thorp], wife of John de Thorp
sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk.
Note
Dated on the guard to 1325, with reference to SC 8/8/355, SC 8/8/356A, and SC 8/8/356B, earlier copies of this petition and its two enclosures, dated to 1324 by PROME although internal evidence shows that it is from 1325.
Related material

A duplicate petition with a later date is SC 8/8/355

For a related writ and inquisition see SC 8/8/356B

For a related certification of the exchequer see SC 8/8/356A

For a related petition see SC 8/266/13299

For a transcript of the writ of diem clausit extremum and inquisition mentioned in the petition see SC 8/166/8299

For a transcript of the certification of the exchequer mentioned in the petition see SC 8/166/8298

Held by
The National Archives, Kew
Legal status
Public Record(s)
Language
French
Closure status
Open Document, Open Description
Publication note(s)
  • Rotuli Parliamentorum; ut et Petitiones, et Placita in Parliamento, vol. I, Edw I and Edw II, (Record Commission, 1783), p.419a-b (no.12) (edition of part of petition)
  • The Parliament Rolls of Medieval England, Ed. Paul Brand, Anne Curry, Chris Given-Wilson, Rosemary Horrox, W.M. Ormrod and J.R.S. Phillips, (Cambridge University Press, 2005), Appendix of Unedited Petitions, 1307-1337, Rotuli Parliamentorum I, pp. 416-429, no. 12 (summary of references)
Record URL
https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9294142/

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