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John de Senclier; Alice de Senclier, wife of John de Senclier. de Senclier; de Senclier...
Catalogue reference: SC 8/166/8280
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This record is about the John de Senclier; Alice de Senclier, wife of John de Senclier. de Senclier; de Senclier... dating from [1334-1335] in the series Special Collections: Ancient Petitions. It is held at The National Archives, Kew.
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Reference (The unique identifier to the record described, used to order and refer to it)
- SC 8/166/8280
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Date (When the record was created)
- [1334-1335]
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Description (What the record is about)
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- Petitioners
- John de Senclier; Alice de Senclier, wife of John de Senclier.
- Name(s)
- de Senclier; de Senclier, John; Alice
- Addressees
- King and council.
- Nature of request
- John and Alice de Senclier state that they arraigned an assize concerning the diversion of water in Merriott which is harming their free tenement in Chiselborough, against John de Merriott and others, by which diversion they have lost profits from Chiselborough mill of 10 marks yearly. And because the manor of Merriott is held of the King in chief and in the keeping of Talbot because Merriott is underage, the justices of the assizes in Somerset delayed taking the assize. The justices were then ordered by the King's writ under the great seal that if they learned that the diversion was made by Merriott and others since the death of George de Merriott, they should proceed with the assize according to the law of the land. And then, at Talbot's procurement, the King ordered the justices, by his writ under the targe (privy seal), not to take the said assize until the King had been advised, whereby the petitioners cannot have a settlement in the matter. They had another writ to proceed with the assize, by virtue of which it was found by inquest that the diversion had been made since George's death by those named in the writ. And then the King by his writ ordered the justices to surcease from taking this assize, contrary to the form of the Statute previously made and the law of the land. Wherefore the petitioners request that they can have a writ to the justices that if it has been or should be found that the diversion was made by John de Merriott or any other named in the writ since George's death, that they should proceed with the assize according to the law of the land, notwithstanding any order made or to be made to them, so that the petitioners are not disinherited and their justice delayed without reason.
- Nature of endorsement
- The writ should go to the justices and if the process is as the petition claims they should proceed to take the assize and do justice according to the first commands that came to them under the great seal, notwithstanding the said letters under the targe (privy seal).
- Places mentioned
- Chiselborough, Somerset
- Merriott, [Somerset].
- People mentioned
- John [de Merriott], son of George de Merriott
- George de Meriot (Merriott)
- Gilbert Talbot.
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Note (Additional information about the record)
- Dated on the guard to 1334-5, with reference to Rot. Parl. Vol. II, p. 86 and CFR 1327-37, p. 435, a 1335 commitment of the keeping of the lands late of John St Clare in the king's hand by reason of the minority of his heir; thus the petition must predate his death. However it is noted on the guard that it may be earlier, with reference to CPR 1327-30, p. 492, a 1330 licence for John de St Clare to enfeoff Chiselborough; and C 143/208/12.
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Held by (Who holds the record)
- The National Archives, Kew
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Legal status (A note as to whether the record being described is a Public Record or not)
- Public Record(s)
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Language (The language of the record)
- French
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Closure status (Whether the record is ‘open’ (available to the public) or ‘closed’ (not available due to a legal exemption))
- Open Document, Open Description
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Publication note(s) (A note of publications related to the record)
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- Calendar of Fine Rolls, vol. IV, Edw III, 1327-1337, (Public Record Office, 1913), p.435 (commitment of keeping of lands late of John St Clare)
- Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edw III, vol. I, 1327-1330, (Public Record Office, 1891), p.492 (licence for John de St Clare to enfeoff Chiselborough)
- Rotuli Parliamentorum; ut et Petitiones, et Placita in Parliamento, vol. II, Edw III, (Record Commission, 1783), p.86b (no.57) (edition of petition)
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Record URL
- https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9294125/
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