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Thomas de la Vere (Bere). Vere (Bere) Thomas King and council. Thomas de la Vere...

Catalogue reference: SC 8/145/7241

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Reference
SC 8/145/7241
Date
[c. 1357-c. 1359]
Description
Petitioners
Thomas de la Vere (Bere).
Name(s)
Vere (Bere), Thomas
Addressees
King and council.
Nature of request
Thomas de la Vere states that as he had various actions against various people concerning various lands, they, in order to prevent him pursuing them, procured an inquest of office, claiming that the King had reason to seize half the manor of Haselbury Plucknett into his hand. The King instructed him to present any reasons why this should not happen, and seven years ago Thomas appeared in King's Bench and asked for the matter to be put to a jury. Since then the matter has been delayed, through malice, until the King's thirtieth year, when Thomas petitioned, complaining of this, and was granted letters to William de Scharshull and his companions to hold the inquest. They have not done so, and he requests new letters asking them to hold the inquest without more delay, and that it might be held in the country by a writ of nisi prius, by a jury of the best and most suitable people of those parts.
Nature of endorsement
Coram rege.
Places mentioned
Haselbere (Haselbury Plucknett), [Somerset].
People mentioned
William de Scharshull (Shareshull), justice.
Note
The petitioner states that he petitioned in the King's thirtieth year (25 January 1356-24 January 1357), and that this petition has had no result: so this current petition is likely to date from the next year or so. This would agree with William de Shareshull's time as Chief Justice of King's Bench (1350-1360).As the various entries in the Close, Patent and Fine rolls show, the petitioner was involved in disputes about both halves of the manor of Haselbury Plucknett. The relevant half is probably that mentioned in CPR 1350-4 p.338 (dated at Westminster, 14 July 1352), which belonged to Alan de Plogenet, and was then granted to his sister Joan: this would then probably be the procured inquest mentioned by this petition, which would date it to seven years later, ie. c.1359. This would agree with the dating of SC 8/32/1600, where the dispute has been going on for ten years. Note also that SC 8/169/8436 apparently mentions that the dispute has been going on for five years: this may mean that this petition had been presented in the thirtieth year (i.e. 1356-7).
Related material

For transcript, see p.136 of PRO 31/7/138

For a related petition from the same petitioner is SC 8/169/8436

Held by
The National Archives, Kew
Legal status
Public Record(s)
Language
French
Closure status
Open Document, Open Description
Publication note(s)
  • Calendar of Charter Rolls, vol. II, Hen III and Edw I, 1257-1300, (Public Record Office, 1906), pp.262-263 (grant of this manor to Alan de Plogenet by Edward I)
  • Calendar of Close Rolls, Edw III, vol. XI, 1360-1364, (Public Record Office, 1910), pp.506-7 (order to the Sheriff of Somerset not to intermeddle further with the half of the manor of Haselbury Plucknett which Sibyl de Plogenet held in dower, restoring to Thomas de la Bere the issues taken from it)
  • Calendar of Close Rolls, Edw III, vol. XII, 1364-1368, (Public Record Office, 1910), pp.132 (order to the Sheriff not to meddle further with this manor) & pp.414-5 (grant of the manor to Ingram de Coucy, Earl of Bedford, and his wife)
  • Calendar of Fine Rolls, vol. VI, Edw III, 1347-1356, (Public Record Office, 1922), pp.361 (grant to Thomas de la Bere of the keeping of the half of the manor of Haselbury Plucknett which Sibyl de Plogenet held in dower) & p.378 (order to the Escheator of Somerset to take this half-manor into the king's hand, as a plea is pending between the king and Thomas de la Bere)
  • Calendar of Fine Rolls, vol. VII, Edw III, 1356-1368, (Public Record Office, 1923), p.318 (order to the Sheriff to seize this half manor back into the king's hand as there was an error in the taking of the inquisition on which this order was based)
  • Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edw III, vol. IX, 1350-1354, (Public Record Office, 1907), p.185 (inspeximus of a charter of Edward I granting the manor of Haselbury Plucknett to Alan de Plogenet and his heirs, and confirmation of the same to Thomas de la Bere and his heirs) & p.338 (commission to inquire whether Alan de Plogenet held of the king in chief and died without an heir)
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