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John de Loundres (London), engineer, burgess of Conway. de Loundres (London) John...
Catalogue reference: SC 8/124/6154
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Reference (The unique identifier to the record described, used to order and refer to it)
- SC 8/124/6154
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Date (When the record was created)
- [1310-1322]
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Description (What the record is about)
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- Petitioners
- John de Loundres (London), engineer, burgess of Conway.
- Name(s)
- de Loundres (London), John
- Addressees
- King.
- Occupation
- engineer
- Nature of request
- [Part of the upper section of this petition is missing]John de London, engineer, states that, for his good service to the king's father and his imprisonment in Scotland, he petitioned the king, who granted him the bailiwick of the raglotry of the commote of Creuddyn and the woodwardries of Arllechwedd Uchaf and Arllechwedd Isaf, by letters patent [the grant is recited, dated 5 June 1310]. He therefore requests that it be made according to this first grant and the first petition.Also, John states that the Justice of Wales deprived him of the two woodwardries, contrary to the king's grant, and therefore requests that they be restored.
- Nature of endorsement
- Petitions of Wales.Whereas John de London, engineer, shows to the King's Council his commission under the King's seal in the form given in this petition, it is ordered to the justice of Wales to allow him to hold the tenements according to the letters, and, if they are taken into the king's hands, to restore the two woodwardries, together with all issues received since they were taken, so that he answer to the king in full, unless he considers that they ought not be restored, in which case he should certify the king immediately.
- Places mentioned
- Conway, [Caernarfonshire, Wales]
- Scotland
- Creuddyn commote, [Caernarfonshire, Wales]
- Arllechwedd Uchaf, [Caernarfonshire, Wales]
- Arllechwedd Isaf, [Caernarfonshire, Wales]
- Windsor, [Berkshire].
- People mentioned
- [Edward I], King of England
- Eleanor [of Castille, Queen of England], mother of the king
- Roger de Mortimer, Justice of Wales.
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Note (Additional information about the record)
- The missing section makes the precise terms of the petition difficult to reconstruct. Rees gives a date of 1309-10, but it would appear that London was seeking the restoration of the recited grant of 1310. As such, the seizure by Mortimer which prompted this petition must have occurred somewhat later, possibly many years after the 1310 grant was made. Mortimer served two terms as Justice of Wales, in 1308-15 and 1316-22.
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Held by (Who holds the record)
- The National Archives, Kew
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Former department reference (Former identifier given by the originating creator)
- Parliamentary Petition 5302
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Legal status (A note as to whether the record being described is a Public Record or not)
- Public Record(s)
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Language (The language of the record)
- French
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Closure status (Whether the record is ‘open’ (available to the public) or ‘closed’ (not available due to a legal exemption))
- Open Document, Open Description
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Publication note(s) (A note of publications related to the record)
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- Calendar of Ancient Petitions Relating to Wales, Board of Celtic Studies, History and Law, (University of Wales, 1975), pp.206-7 (full translation of petition and endorsements)
- Calendar of Fine Rolls, vol. II, Edw II, 1307-1319, (Public Record Office, 1912), p.62 (enrolment of the grant recited in the petition, and order to Roger de Mortimer to make delivery)
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Record URL
- https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9208324/
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