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Catalogue reference: SC 5/8/7
Transferred to SC 5/8/6 and subsequently to C 47/8/1
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John del Ille (Isle), son of Roger del Ille (Isle) Ille (Isle) John King and council...
Catalogue reference: SC 8/53/2641
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This record is about the John del Ille (Isle), son of Roger del Ille (Isle) Ille (Isle) John King and council... dating from [1317-1327] in the series Special Collections: Ancient Petitions. It is held at The National Archives, Kew.
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Reference (The unique identifier to the record described, used to order and refer to it)
- SC 8/53/2641
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Date (When the record was created)
- [1317-1327]
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Description (What the record is about)
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- Petitioners
- John del Ille (Isle), son of Roger del Ille (Isle)
- Name(s)
- Ille (Isle), John
- Addressees
- King and council
- Nature of request
- John, son of Roger del Ille, states that the justices do not wish to proceed without the king's command in his plea against John de Margny concerning half the manor of Grafton Regis in Northamptonshire, because John de Margny is claiming to hold for term of life of the king's lease. He requests that they be ordered to proceed, so that justice may be done to him.
- Nature of endorsement
- Coram rege.The Treasurer and Chamberlains are to be ordered that they are to search for what can be effective to preserve the king's estate in the matter of the half-manor, and for the reason why the manor came into the king's hand; and the Chancellor is to be informed of what has been found, so that he can further instruct the justices as reason demands.
- Places mentioned
- Grafton (Grafton Regis), Northamptonshire
- People mentioned
- Roger del Ille (Isle), father of petitioner
- William de Hanred
- Robert le Baud, formerly Sheriff of Northamptonshire
- John de Margny
- William de Bereford, justice
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Note (Additional information about the record)
- Dated on the guard to 1317-1327, with reference to CPR 1317-21 p.37 (the grant to John de Margny, dated at Ware, 14 October 1317) and the fact that SC 8/54/2682 states that it was dealt with by Edward II. A further note dates it to '? 1318' with reference to Docs. Illus. English History p.10 (from the October parliament of 12 Edward II (1318)) and CPR 1317-21 pp.250-251, which is dated at York, 26 November 1318.Robert le Baud was Sheriff of Northamptonshire between 13 November 1279 and 29 November 1289.
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Related material (A cross-reference to other related records)
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A petition from the petitioner's father is SC 8/53/2650
A related petition is SC 8/54/2653
A petition from the petitioner's father about this manor is is SC 8/259/12931
A later related petition is SC 8/54/2682
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Held by (Who holds the record)
- The National Archives, Kew
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Former department reference (Former identifier given by the originating creator)
- Parliamentary Petition 4588
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Legal status (A note as to whether the record being described is a Public Record or not)
- Public Record(s)
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Language (The language of the record)
- French
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Closure status (Whether the record is ‘open’ (available to the public) or ‘closed’ (not available due to a legal exemption))
- Open Document, Open Description
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Publication note(s) (A note of publications related to the record)
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- Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edw II, vol. III, 1317-1321, (Public Record Office, 1903), pp.37 (grant to John de Margny of half the manor of Grafton Regis) & 250-251 (reiteration of this grant)
- Documents Illustrative of English History in the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Centuries, selected from the Records of the Department of the Queen's Remembrancer of the Exchequer, Ed. H. Cole, (Record Commission, 1844), p.10 (decision to allow Jakmin (John) de Margny to retain £10 for term of life granted to him from the manor of Grafton Regis)
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Record URL
- https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9062857/
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