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Transferred to SC 5/8/6 and subsequently to C 47/8/1
Catalogue reference: SC 5/8/7
Transferred to SC 5/8/6 and subsequently to C 47/8/1
Item
John de Dynham, knight; Roger Torel. de Dynham; Torel John; Roger King and council...
Catalogue reference: SC 8/44/2171
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This record is about the John de Dynham, knight; Roger Torel. de Dynham; Torel John; Roger King and council... dating from [c. 1365] in the series Special Collections: Ancient Petitions. It is held at The National Archives, Kew.
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Full description and record details
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Reference (The unique identifier to the record described, used to order and refer to it)
- SC 8/44/2171
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Date (When the record was created)
- [c. 1365]
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Description (What the record is about)
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- Petitioners
- John de Dynham, knight; Roger Torel.
- Name(s)
- de Dynham; Torel, John; Roger
- Addressees
- King and council
- Nature of request
- The petitioners show that Courtenay leased to them manors and lands in Devon and Somerset for their lives. The lands have been taken into the king's hand because an inquest found that the lands were held from the king in chief. The petitioners have petitioned to be able to prove this was not the case but are delayed because the keeping of the lands has been granted to the king's daughter and they are not able to have a fine. They request a remedy.
- Nature of endorsement
- No endorsement.
- Places mentioned
- Devon
- Somerset.
- People mentioned
- Thomas de Courtenay, knight
- Isabella [of Woodstock], daughter of Edward III
- Edward III, King of England
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Note (Additional information about the record)
- The dating of this petition is somewhat problematic as the dating on the guard is based on the close roll entries which are writs concerning Dynham's suit over the manors and lands in 1365 (CCR 1364-8, pp.98-9, 180). No reference is made to the other petitioner, so if this followed Torel's death, the petition must be somewhat earlier than this date.
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Held by (Who holds the record)
- The National Archives, Kew
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Former department reference (Former identifier given by the originating creator)
- Parliamentary Petition 2621
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Legal status (A note as to whether the record being described is a Public Record or not)
- Public Record(s)
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Language (The language of the record)
- French
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Closure status (Whether the record is ‘open’ (available to the public) or ‘closed’ (not available due to a legal exemption))
- Open Document, Open Description
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Publication note(s) (A note of publications related to the record)
- Calendar of Close Rolls, Edw III, vol. XII, 1364-1368, (Public Record Office, 1910), pp.98-9, 180 (writs to the justices concerning Dynham's suit)
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Record URL
- https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9062381/
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SC 8
Special Collections: Ancient Petitions
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