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Transferred to SC 5/8/6 and subsequently to C 47/8/1
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Prior of the Hospital of St John outside the New Gate of Dublin. King and council....
Catalogue reference: SC 8/15/736
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This record is about the Prior of the Hospital of St John outside the New Gate of Dublin. King and council.... dating from [c. 1323-1334] in the series Special Collections: Ancient Petitions. It is held at The National Archives, Kew.
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Reference (The unique identifier to the record described, used to order and refer to it)
- SC 8/15/736
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Date (When the record was created)
- [c. 1323-1334]
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Description (What the record is about)
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- Petitioners
- Prior of the Hospital of St John outside the New Gate of Dublin.
- Addressees
- King and council.
- Occupation
- Prior of the Hospital of St John outside the New Gate of Dublin
- Nature of request
- The prior shows that his church and other houses were burnt along with the suburb of Dublin by the Scots, and his granges are robbed and destroyed by the Scots and Irish. He also is heavily indebted because of the sustenance of the brothers and the poor and the sick. He requests that in relief of the hospital the king grant to the hospital the deodands of his Irish lands; and also grant the advowson of the church of Garristown after the death of its parson. Without the aid of the king the hospital will not be able to sustain its activities.
- Nature of endorsement
- Coram rege et magno consilio.Let it be ordered to the justiciar of Ireland that he should have regard for the hospital's poverty, giving them their deodands, and those of others by his discretion.Concerning the second petition, the king does not wish anything to be done.
- Places mentioned
- Dublin, [Ireland]
- Ballyogary (Garristown), [County Dublin, Ireland].
- People mentioned
- William de Bardesby, parson of the church of Garristown.
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Note (Additional information about the record)
- A note on the guard dates this petition to 1334, with reference to a grant of deodands for seven years made in that year (CPR 1330-4, p.552). However, that grant appears to be in response to another, very similar petition, now at SC 8/181/9006, which bears an endorsement explicitly referring to a grant for seven years. The 1334 grant does refer to an earlier grant of these deodands, to be implemented 'at the will of the justiciar', and that is probably the grant noted in the endorsement here. An earlier grant for four years was made in 1319 (Rot. Canc. Hib., p.27b), and thus it seems likely that the present petition dates to some point in the intervening period, between the end of that 4 year grant (c. 1323) and 1334.
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Related material (A cross-reference to other related records)
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For another petition by the hospital see SC 8/54/2658
For another petition by the hospital on this matter see SC 8/181/9006
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Held by (Who holds the record)
- The National Archives, Kew
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Former department reference (Former identifier given by the originating creator)
- Parliamentary Petition 2823
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Legal status (A note as to whether the record being described is a Public Record or not)
- Public Record(s)
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Language (The language of the record)
- French
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Closure status (Whether the record is ‘open’ (available to the public) or ‘closed’ (not available due to a legal exemption))
- Open Document, Open Description
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Publication note(s) (A note of publications related to the record)
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- Calendar of Patent Rolls Edw III, vol. II, 1330-1334, (Public Record Office, 1894), p.552 (later grant of the deodands by the king)
- Irish Material in the Class of Ancient Petitions (SC 8) in the Public Record Office, Analecta Hibernica, vol. XXIV, P. Connolly, (Stationery Office of Ireland, 1987), p.9 (brief calendar of petition)
- Rotuli Parliamentorum; ut et Petitiones, et Placita in Parliamento, vol. II, Edw III, (Record Commission, 1783), p.393a-b (no.88) (full edition of original petition)
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Record URL
- https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9060877/
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SC 8
Special Collections: Ancient Petitions
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