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Community of the Cistercian order in England. King and council. The community of...
Catalogue reference: SC 8/8/359
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This record is about the Community of the Cistercian order in England. King and council. The community of... dating from [1324-1325] in the series Special Collections: Ancient Petitions. It is held at The National Archives, Kew.
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Reference (The unique identifier to the record described, used to order and refer to it)
- SC 8/8/359
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Date (When the record was created)
- [1324-1325]
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Description (What the record is about)
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- Petitioners
- Community of the Cistercian order in England.
- Addressees
- King and council.
- Nature of request
- The community of the Cistercian order in England states that, although they receive into their order, and ought to receive, people of every nation, provided that they are of good life and morals, the abbots of Ireland are refusing to admit Englishmen, but take only the Irish. The community requests a remedy for this, so that the Irish monks accept Englishmen of good life - as the English houses accept them.
- Nature of endorsement
- Coram magno consilio.The Justiciar of Ireland is to be commanded to command the said abbots to receive these people as they would others: and if not, he is to have them appear before him to show their reasons, and then inform the king of them.
- Places mentioned
- Ireland
- England.
- People mentioned
- Cistercian abbots in Ireland.
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Note (Additional information about the record)
- Date given on the evidence of Rot. Parl. JRS Phillips (PROME, Appendix of Unedited Petitions, 1307-1337) says that these petitions probably all do belong to 18 Edward II, although there is no indication that they were presented either at the non-parliamentary assembly of October 1324 or the parliament of June 1325. This is assuming the same date as SC 8/8/360 - but the petitions appear to be duplicates, with only minor embellishments to this one, and were probably presented at the same time.
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Related material (A cross-reference to other related records)
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For transcript, see no.29 of PRO 31/7/97
A near duplicate petition with a different endorsement is SC 8/8/360
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Held by (Who holds the record)
- The National Archives, Kew
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Former department reference (Former identifier given by the originating creator)
- Parliamentary Petition 1597
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Legal status (A note as to whether the record being described is a Public Record or not)
- Public Record(s)
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Language (The language of the record)
- French
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Closure status (Whether the record is ‘open’ (available to the public) or ‘closed’ (not available due to a legal exemption))
- Open Document, Open Description
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Subjects (Categories and themes found in our collection (our subject list is under development, and some records may have no subjects or fewer than expected))
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- Topics
- Ireland
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Publication note(s) (A note of publications related to the record)
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- Irish Material in the Class of Ancient Petitions (SC 8) in the Public Record Office, Analecta Hibernica, vol. XXIV, P. Connolly, (Stationery Office of Ireland, 1987), p.8 (brief calendar)
- Rotuli Parliamentorum; ut et Petitiones, et Placita in Parliamento, vol. I, Edw I and Edw II, (Record Commission, 1783), p.420b, no.14 (full edition of a later copy of a near-duplicate petition)
- The Parliament Rolls of Medieval England, Ed. Paul Brand, Anne Curry, Chris Given-Wilson, Rosemary Horrox, W.M. Ormrod and J.R.S. Phillips, (Cambridge University Press, 2005), Appendix of Unedited Petitions, 1307-1337, Rot. Parl. vol. I, pp. 416-429, no. 14 (summary of references)
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Record URL
- https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/id/C9060483/
Series information
SC 8
Special Collections: Ancient Petitions
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