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See MH 82/12
Catalogue reference: MH 82/49
Date: 1954 Sept 16-1956 Nov 15
See MH 82/12
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Folios 386-387. [Continued from MH 12/16248/] Table showing the number of children...
Catalogue reference: MH 12/16248/302
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- 16 Aug 1853
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- Folios 386-387. [Continued from MH 12/16248/] Table showing the number of children in the Workhouse on 25 December 1849 and where the costs were charged to. Letter from W G Lumley, Assistant Secretary to the Poor Law Board, to C C Williams, in respect of a letter dated [12 December] forwarding a memorial from six of the guardians against the proposal to separate the rural parishes from Cardiff and form them into a separate union. The Board have considered the memorial and also considered the memorial in favour of the proposed alteration and conclude that no sufficient grounds have been shown to exist for making an alteration of the union as at present constituted. Letter from C Vachell, Mayor of Cardiff, to the Poor Law Board, stating that at a public meeting of the ratepayers of the borough of Cardiff held on Friday 11 Jan 1850, at the Town Hall, convened by the Mayor in compliance with a numerously signed requisition for the purpose of considering the propriety of petitioning the Poor Law Commissioners to withhold their compliance with the petition of the board of guardians for separating the town from the county parishes of the union it was resolved that a memorial be presented to the Board against the alteration proposed and that the memorial now read should be adopted and that the chairman be requested to sign it on behalf of the meeting and that Lord James Stuart MP be requested to present the same. The memorial shows the guardians are of the opinion that many of the allegations therein contained are based upon partial and fallacious data and that the inferences deduced from there are erroneous. The memoralists do not consider that the ratepayers generally in this union entertain a deep sense of the necessity of separating the rural parishes from the town of Cardiff in as much as the town of Cardiff compromises a large proportion of the ratepayers who are unanimously opposed to such a separation. There further follows detailed argument against the separation. Signed Charles Vachell, Chairman, Mayor of the Borough of Cardiff. Letter from W G Lumley, Poor Law Board, to C Vachell, Mayor of Cardiff, confirming the presentation to them by Lord James Stuart MP, of a memorial signed by C Vachell on behalf of a meeting of ratepayers of the parishes of St John the Baptist and St Mary, Cardiff held on [11 December] praying that the Board will not cause any separation to be made of the parishes now forming the Cardiff Poor Law Union. Prior to this, the Board has informed the guardians that having considered the subject they concluded that no sufficient grounds had been shown for any alteration in the union as at present constituted. Notification of a memorial of the undersigned guardians of the union to the Commissioners showing that the memoralists are deeply impressed with the necessity of some arrangement being effected for the division of the union by separating the country parishes from those of St John and St Mary in the town of Cardiff and forming the latter into a separate Union of themselves. It is thought that it is agreed that the amalgamation of the rural parishes with the seaport town of Cardiff is most detrimental to the proper management of the union. Recently attempts have been made to establish an industrial school for training the pauper children to habits of industry. The guardians resisted this measure solely on the grounds that it would be unjust to require parishes situated 8, 10 or 12 miles from Cardiff to pay towards the pauper children from the town whose habits and pursuits being of a commercial nature, are not likely to induce them to settle in these rural parishes and therefore the benefits to the latter would be problematic. The union accounts show how the In door paupers from Cardiff preponderate over the 43 parishes in the country. Accounts being transmitted in the table shown. The document mentions costs in maintaining such a fund with a large amount of paupers from the town which would produce a burden to the rural districts. Further mention is made of the disadvantage a separation would cause in terms of vagrants, casual poor, employment, accidents, sickness, those who are irremovable by a five years residence and the increase in population. A table is shown setting out the parishes and their elected guardians: Bonvilstone, David Vaughan; Barry, Morgan Thomas; Cadoxton, Miles Spickett; Cayra, James Langley; Cogan, T Stuart Corbett; Eglwysilan, William Thomas, William Leigh, David Davis; Lanedarne, Thomas Christopher; Lisvane, Edward Langley; Lanishen, Thomas Jones; Lantwit Vardre, William Perkins; Lantrithyd, Llewellyn Thomas; Lancarvan, David Morgan; Llandaff, E David, Vice Chairman, William Williams. Llantrisant, William Treharne [Trebarne], Richard Evans, M W Harris; Llanilterne, John Thomas; Leckwith, George Eckley; Llandough, C W Evans; Michaelstone-super-Ely, William Berriman; Michaelstone -le- Pit, Thomas Gnatt; Merthyr Dovan, Robert John; Penmark, William George; Pendoylon, Thomas Hughes Jones; Pentyrck, H Jas Thomas; Peterstone-super-Ely, Ed Williams; Porthkerry, Morgan Hawkins; Penarth, Evan John; Roath, William Evans; Radyr, David Lewis; Rudry, Isaac Price; Rumney, Thomas Baker; St Nicholas, George Hantottle; St Lythans, David Laugher; St Fagan's, John Phillips; St Georges, Lewis Davies; St Andrew's, John Morgan; St Brides-Super-Ely, Lewis Anthony Nicholls; St Mellons, Thomas Richards; Sully, John Spickett; Vaen, No Guardian appointed; Wenvoe, Daniel Laugher; Welsh, St Donatts, Evan Jones; Whitchurch, David Rowland, William Thomas. [Continued at MH 12/16248/] Poor Law Union Number 613. Counties: Glamorganshire and Monmouthshire.
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