[In Chancery: Sir John Mordaunt, KB, v. Lawson, Bt., and others, customary tenants...

Depositions of evidence of the defendants and for the plaintiff

This item begins in the middle of the defendants' depositions (p.1-19), including those of Sir Wilfrid and other Lawsons (p.15-19); pages 20-74 (last) have "Proofs taken on the part of the Plaintiff". The defendants all "deny Combination".

The lawsuit concerned the lord's and tenants concepts of their ancient rights and customs of the Manor of Isel as in the lifetime of the late Miss Elizabeth Lawson (died in 1769), as lady of the manor.

The framework of this evidence is:

Pages Topic (T) = Includes re Tenantright

3-19 : The Defendants' Evidence

(Pages 1-2 are missing)

3-6 [Virtual rental of the Manor]

7-10 Timber rights

10-11 Descent of the Manor since 1704 and its effect on Sir John Mordaunt's claims.

12-13 Authority of the Stewards within the Manor (i.e. Messrs. J Brougham and J Clennell)

13-14 Timber rights

15-19 Fines payable (Lawsons' evidence. The Lawsons were among the defendants in this suit)

20-75 : The Plaintiff's Evidence

Summary: 20-46 : Other manors' fines on death or alienation

46-62 : Other manors' successions of lord

63 : Isel court records cited as evidence in this present lawsuit

63-75 : Timber rights in the Manor

20-21 John Clennell's evidence as Joint Steward

22-23 John Brougham's evidence as Joint Steward these 20 years and upwards

24-25 Tenantright admittances and custom

25 Timber rights

27-29 Mode of calling the manor court

30-34 Mode of intimating fines, and times of paying them.

34-64 Comparative material : the Ancient Customs of the respective manors as follows; mainly relates to fines payable in each:-

Page: 34-35

Deponent, Age: Henry Littledale, gent., 58

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Workington, Harrington, Hensingham (40 years); Kelton & Arlecdon (c.20 years); Muncaster, Drigg, Waberthwaite, and Corney; Langdale, Preston Richard (Westmorland); Pennington (Lancs.), all for 8-10 years. (7)

Page: 35

Deponent, Age: Wm. Robinson, husbandman, 47; Thomas Wilkinson, 71 weaver

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Low Winder (Westmorland) (re Davis)

do. for "ever since he Can remember anything"

Page: 35-36

Deponent, Age: John Lucock, Esq., 52

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Manor of Brigham & Hewthwaite, 10 years (T)

Page: 36

Deponent, Age: Thomas Stalker, husbandman, 58

Manors and how long acquainted with them: High Head, 45 years (T)

Page: 36-37

Deponent, Age: John Hugill, gent., 63

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Ousby, 20 years (T)

Page: 37

Deponent, Age: Robert Wilson, husbandman, 67

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Ousby and "Skirkwith" [Skirwith] for 50 years; native of Ousby, bailiff there (Mr Crackenthorpe, lord) these 40 years and cust. tenant in both these manors for 30 years

Page: 37

Deponent, Age: William Bill, gent., 56

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Manor of Hayton and West Newton, 47 years; Steward there these 27 years.

Page: 37

Deponent, Age: John Harrison, maltster; age not stated

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Dearham, over 40 years; cust. tenant there these 27 years.

Page: 38

Deponent, Age: Joshua Kirkhaugh, husbandman, 72

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Hayton and Oughterside, 60 years (freeholder in Hayton, cust. tenant in Oughterside). (T)

Page: 38

Deponent, Age: Thomas Westray, woodmonger, 59

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Wythop, for as long as he can remember; bailiff there these 12 years. (T)

Page: 38-39

Deponent, Age: William Barker gent., 76

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Burton (Westmorland), and "Yellon" [Yealand?] (Lancs.), adjoining, 60 years (T)

Page: 39

Deponent, Age: Edmund Adamson, gent., 84

Manors and how long acquainted with them: "Yealand otherwise Yealand Conyers", "Yealand Redman" and Silverdale (Lancs.); and Burton (Westmorland), 60 years; all contiguous manors (T)

Page: 39

Deponent, Age: Edward Johnson Esq., 60

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Preston Richard, 50 years; has lived at Old Hall there all his life (T)

Page: 40

Deponent, Age: James Dowker gent., 50

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Levens, Milnthorpe, Helsington, Underbarrow, Crosthwaite & Lyth, Clawthorpe, Crook, Staveley, Hugill, Longsleddale, Skelsmergh, Fawcett Forest,

Page: 40

Deponent, Age: James Dowker gent.,

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Beetham, Witherslack (Westmorland), and Bolton with Adgarley (Lancs.), 20 years.

Page: 40-41

Deponent, Age: Daniel Robinson Esq., 51

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Great Ormside, Crosby Garrett, Warcop, Brough with Helbeck, Dufton, Drybeck, Hoff Row and Nether Hoff, Appleby, Brough, Kirkby Stephen, Oglebird, Bampton, all in Westmorland, 20 years; is Steward to several of them.

Page: 41

Deponent, Age: Michael Knot Esq., 76

Manors and how long acquainted with them: "Conistone" [Coniston] (Lancs); Skirwith, Beckermet, Kirkland, Braithwaite, Brundholme (Cumberland); Rydal (Westmorland 50 years (T)

Page: 41-42

Deponent, Age: John Sawrey, husbandman, 78

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Brasbourn in Langdale (Wd.), 40 years (resident) (T)

Page: 42

Deponent, Age: Thos. Dixon, husbandman, 55

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Coniston (Lancs), 30 years.

Page: 42

Deponent, Age: Robert Baynes Esq., 54

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Honor and Brough of Cockermouth and the other Leconfield manors (listed here), including the Wharton Manors; also Whicham, Irton; has been Steward of the Leconfield manors these 11 years.

Page: 42-43

Deponent, Age: Isaac Johnson, husbandman, 46

Manors and how long acquainted with them: "Blencowe", 30 years (T)

Page: 43

Deponent, Age: "Nicholas Sott" [Scott]

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Omitted here; see p. 45

Page: 43-44

Deponent, Age: Thos. Benson, 29

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Clerk to Robert Baynes, solicitor, these 11 years, and now partner of the firm, and present Steward of Egremont, High Head, "Hivegill" [Ivegill], Catterlen; also re Whicham and Irton here

Page: 44-45

Deponent, Age: John Benson, gent., 54

Manors and how long acquainted with them: "Several" (not named) as bailiff in the Egremont district; also re Irton and the Irton family.

Page: 45

Deponent, Age: John Fearon, gent., 52

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Whicham, 25 years (T)

Page: 45

Deponent, Age: Nicholas Scott, husbandman, 73

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Caldbeck, Upton and Underhill, Gt. Broughton, Little Broughton, Birkby, Whinfell, Croglin;Dean; tenant at Caldbeck these 40 yrs.

Page: 46

Deponent, Age: John Clennell, Steward

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to Sir Wilfrid's tenancy in Hewthwaite

Page: 46

Deponent, Age: John Brougham, Steward

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to the Manor of Threapland

Page: 46-47

Deponent, Age: Henry Littledale (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to the Curwen manors; and as to the Lowther of Whitehaven manors; and as to the Pennington of Muncaster manors; and as to Seascale (Earle's)

Page: 47

Deponent, Age: William Robinson (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Low Winder (Davis' succession)

Page: 47

Deponent, Age: Thomas Atkinson (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Low Winder (Davis' succession)

Page: 47-48

Deponent, Age: Thomas Stalker (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: High Head

Page: 48-49

Deponent, Age: John Hugill (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Ousby, Newbiggin, Hale Grange, Hardendale [last three manors are in Westmorland] (Crackenthorpe succession), and Thornthwaite otherwise Bampton Patrick [Westmorland]

Page: 49

Deponent, Age: Robert Wilson (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Ousby (Crackenthorpe succession)

Page: 49

Deponent, Age: William Bill (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Hayton and Westnewton manors.

Page: 50

Deponent, Age: John Harrison (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Dearham (re. the Lowther succession, 1754-)

Page: 50

Deponent, Age: Joshua Kirkhaugh

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Hayton (Musgrave succession)

Page: 50-51

Deponent, Age: Thomas Westray (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Wythop (Fletcher succession)

Page: 51

Deponent, Age: William Barker (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Burton [Westmorland] (Middleton and Oldfield succession)

Page: 51-52

Deponent, Age: Edward Adamson (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Burton [Westmorland] (Middleton and Oldfield succession)

Page: 52

Deponent, Age: Edward Johnson (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Preston Richard, Westmorland (Pennington succession)

Page: 52-53

Deponent, Age: James Dowker (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Levens, Milnthorpe, etc., group as before, ending Skelsmergh, Fawcett Forest, and Gathorn (Graham's settlement on marriage of Catherine his daughter to Lord Berkshire, 1708, and the succession thereafter)

Page: 53

Deponent, Age: Michael Knott (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Fleming manors and succession

Page: 54

Deponent, Age: John Sawrey (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Braysbrown (Atkinson succession)

Page: 54

Deponent, Age: Thos. Dixon (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Coniston (Fleming)

Page: 54-56

Deponent, Age: Robert Baynes (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Percy manors and succession to Lord Egremont.

Page: 56

Deponent, Age: Isaac Johnson (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Blencowe (Blencowe succession)

Page: 56

Deponent, Age: Jonathan Priestman, 67

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Clifton (Cumberland) Lowther succession)

Page: 56-57

Deponent, Age: John Pearson, gent., 51

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Borough of Egremont (Benn succession)

Page: 57

Deponent, Age: Henry Caddy, husbandman, 53

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Irton (addendum to Robert Baynes above)

Page: 57

Deponent, Age: Isaac Hartley, husbandman, 63

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Bolton (Cumberland) (Benn succession)

Page: 57

Deponent, Age: Richard Walker, yeo., 79

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Seascale (Senhouse and Earle succession)

Page: 57-58

Deponent, Age: John Little, husbandman, 39

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Nicholforest (Widdington's succession to Graham)

Page: 58

Deponent, Age: John Moscrop, yeo., 56

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Nicholforest (Widdington's succession to Graham) as bailiff there at the time

Page: 58

Deponent, Age: John Dodgson, gent., "30 and upwards"

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Nicholforest (Widdington's succession to Graham), to same effect.

Page: 58

Deponent, Age: William Routledge, yeo. 55

Manors and how long acquainted with them: do. (do.), to same effect.

Page: 58

Deponent, Age: John Bushby, husbandman, 28

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Torpenhow (Tolson succession)

Page: 58-60

Deponent, Age: John Fearon (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Whicham (Fearon succession)

[No page 59 in the page-numbers]

Page: 60

Deponent, Age: Edward Nicholson, gent., 65

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Castlerigg and "Darwentwater" and Thornthwaite (bailiff of Thornthwaite), 20 years (Greenwich Hospital manors)

Page: 60

Deponent, Age: Nicholas Scott (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Wharton manors and succession

Page: 61

Deponent, Age: John Thornthwaite, husbandman, 58

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Arkleby (Gustavus Thompson's succession to Johanna his wife)

Page: 61

Deponent, Age: John Brougham (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Duke of Somerset's succession (Cumberland manors especially Brundholme)

Page: 61-62

Deponent, Age: John Richardson husbandman, 36

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Oughterside (born, bred and lifelong resident there) (Lawson succession) (T)

Page: 61

Manors and how long acquainted with them: ("That in the Township of Oughterside aforesaid are also a few Customary Tenants who hold Tenements according to the Custom of Tenant Right under Rebecca Walker, Widow, Lady of these Tenements").

Page: 62-63

Deponent, Age: John Clennell (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Oughterside (Lawson succession) (T)

Page: 63

Deponent, Age: John Brougham (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Oughterside (Lawson succession) (T)

Page: 63

Deponent, Age: John Clennell (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to Exhibits A-F, namely:

Exhibit A. Isel courtbook, 1660-1712

B. Isel courtbook, 1642-1691

C. Isel courtbook, 1690-1769

D. Isel courtbook, 1769-1770

E. Isel general fine assessment, 1688-9.

F. do. in present dispute (original), [1769/70]

Page: 63

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Vouches that A-D and F are the originals; that A-D he found in "the Writings of the family in the Steward's Office there upon his entering on his Office of Steward now 32 Years ago"

Page: 63-64

Deponent, Age: John Lucock (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel, 20 years. As to his purchase (with Charles Christian gent.) of oak trees growing in Old Park on the customary tenements of John Fell, Thomas Fell, and Henry Fisher; does not know whether the lord or lady has right to all the timber in the manor.

Page: 64

Deponent, Age: John Grainger, gent.

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel (re timber: states the custom as he understands it)

Page: 64

Deponent, Age: John Miller (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel ("Speaks to there being a large Quantity of Oak Ash and Elm timber Trees" growing there). As to who may cut what in the various townships, and for what use. Includes re hedges.

Page: 65

Deponent, Age: John Simpson (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel (re timber)

Charles Bouch (as before) omitted here

Page: 65

Deponent, Age: Daniel Boadle (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel: Sunderland ("Oak Elm Ash Timber and other Trees") trees and hedge; also Old Park trees. States that the lord may cause the felled ground to be enclosed [for tillage], due compensation being made to the tenant for [loss of] herbage.

Page: 65

Deponent, Age: Thos. Westray (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel: Demesnes and Old Park (timber)

Page: 65

Deponent, Age: Wilfrid Harrison, gardener, 74

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel, 60 years, mostly as "employed in the Isell family" and also as a cottager in Blindcrake (timber)

Page: 65-66

Deponent, Age: John Pearson (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel, 30 years, especially Blindcrake ("very little Oak or Ash Timber or other Trees Save Hedge Rows" there)

Page: 66

Deponent, Age: Robert Peele's deposition omitted

Page: 66

Deponent, Age: Christopher Steel, yeo., 80

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel (timber) - hears that the lord "hath made Great falls of Wood ... in Old Park Save the Hedge Rows", but Blindcrake has very little wood in it.

Page: 66

Deponent, Age: John Grave, husbandman, 79

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel (a native of the manor), re timber. (T.). Also re hedge-boot.

Page: 66-67

Deponent, Age: Martin Port, carpenter, 74

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel, 45 years, "he often worked as a Carpenter for the family at Isel", particularly for repairing the late Sir Wilfrid's corn mills "for a Month or 2 together". Timber.

Page: 67

Deponent, Age: Jonathan Twentyman, yeo., 81

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel (whole life). Oak, ash, elm, etc. What the tenants do cut.

Page: 67

Deponent, Age: John Fearon (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel, many years. Ash and Sycamore trees growing behind his house 20 years ago at Blindcrake, felled by him (with lord's licence) for repairs there.

Page: 67

Deponent, Age: William Grave farmer, 41

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel. As to what he cut in Sunderland Springs when he was servant to John Fisher.

Page: 67-68

Deponent, Age: Joshua Steel, husbandman, 58

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel, 40 years. Born and lives at Redmain; c.t. there to "the Brayton family", formerly to "the Isel family". Timber in Old Park etc.)

Page: 68

Deponent, Age: Wm. Pooley, husbandman, 70 John "Blakelin" (as above); John Adcock, butcher, 48

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel, 40 years. Born and lives at Redmain; c.t. there to "the Brayton family", formerly to "the Isel family". Timber in Old Park etc.)

Page: 68-69

Deponent, Age: Thos. Pearson (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel, 40 years. Born and lives at Redmain; c.t. there to "the Brayton family", formerly to "the Isel family". Timber in Old Park etc.), especially re.Sunderland Springs, where "the Tenants have the Eatage"; as to Stewards complaint 4 or 5 years ago, when he (TP) was on the jury that viewed it. As to inclosure after felling.

Page: 69

Deponent, Age: John Clementson, linen weaver, 56; Jonathan Mitchinson, carpenter, 66; John Bell, house carpenter, 50; John Miller, carpenter, 65

Manors and how long acquainted with them: All four agree with John Adcock above (p. 68)

Page: 69

Deponent, Age: Isaac Beck, currier, 80

Manors and how long acquainted with them: All four agree with John Adcock above (p. 68), adding that he has for years used his wood for building houses in Cockermouth, having bought it from the lord.

Page: 69-71

Deponent, Age: John Clennell (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel, especially Old Park; "the greatest and most Valuable Part of the Wood is in Old Park". Oak, Ash, Elm, etc.; as to the "Antient Hedge Rows" and other hedges. States the custom, official and unofficial, there and in Blindcrake and Sunderland, now and in Joshua Briscoe's time as bailiff (died in his 60s. about 12 years ago). As to the big sale of wood c.1753, and the dispute then. As to the tenants' 1658 lawsuit against Sir Wilfrid on timber rights, and the papers then produced dating from 1658-1690.

Page: 71

Deponent, Age: John Brougham (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel - especially Old Park; "the greatest and most Valuable Part of the Wood is in Old Park". Oak, Ash, Elm, etc.; as to the "Antient Hedge Rows" and other hedges. States the custom, official and unofficial, there and in Blindcrake and Sunderland, now and in Joshua Briscoe's time as bailiff (died in his 60s. about 12 years ago). As to the big sale of wood c.1753, and the dispute then. As to the tenants' 1658 lawsuit against Sir Wilfrid on timber rights, and the papers then produced dating from 1658-1690. Tenants' overreachings.

Page: 71-72

Deponent, Age: John Miller (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Isel - frequent fellings by the lord for own profit; and that the Blindcrake tenants have illicitly felled their hedgerows' timber, though "the Lord's Consent is seldom or never refused". Has known "the Tenants of Old Park Punished for Cutting down Wood Clandestinely"; and that all fellings by tenants are clandestine, except in Old Park where they have hedgerow timber on prior notice to lord.

Page: 72

Deponent, Age: Charles Bruce (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to the Old Park fellings by Sir Wilfrid in 1724 or 1725, and the tenants "Interruption" then.

Page: 72

Deponent, Age: Daniel Boadle (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Says that the sale made £1300-£1400 for the said "Ladies of the Manor".

Page: 72

Deponent, Age: Thos. Westray (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to his father's purchase of Sir Wilfrid's 10142 oak trees [see Item D Law/1/210 above] mostly in Isel Old Park, which were cut without any objection from the tenants.

Page: 73

Deponent, Age: Wilfrid Harrison (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to lord's fellings and tenants' ("Fyned for so doing") in Isel Old Park.

Page: 73

Deponent, Age: John Blakelin (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to Thos. Westray senior's purchase [no further details]; and that "about 15-16 years ago an Additional Building was made to Isell Hall", and the wood for it, "being a Considerable Quantity", was cut on James Fell's c.t. in Old Park; and that about 5 or 6 years ago the Steward ordered wood to be felled for "the Colliery belonging to the Lord of Isell"; that he (JB) was employed in this, and that "when Cutt down [it] took 4 or 5 of them 2 or 3 Days in Peiling", he being one of the "4 or 5"; that is was felled on John Messenger's cust. tenement in Old Park, and no one objected; as to clandestine fellings and "Fynes" for same.

Page: 73

Deponent, Age: John Bell (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to John Lucock's purchase of £1300-worth of wood there; and that John Fell's fine was £10 for felling "some Trees".

Page: 73

Deponent, Age: Isaac Beck (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to Thos. Westray's (above)

Page: 73-74

Deponent, Age: John Clennell (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Details the several fellings ordered by him "as Agent and Steward to the family at Isell", mostly in Old Park, and only once in Sunderland Springs; that the latter was for 15-20 oak trees "for the Lord or Lady's use for Repairs of their Farm Houses as well in as out of the Manor", in which Isaac Ritson (defendant to this present suit, now dead) helped in the felling; that in 1747 JC bought a c.t. in Blindcrake and cut down "a few Trees near the House, which he Sold for £7". Says that "the Plaintiff told him he might Assess his own Fyne in a reasonable Manner and made him a Compliment of the Price of the said Wood". As to (il)licit fellings and fines if caught.

Page: 74

Deponent, Age: John Miller (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to the Lords' practice in felling.

Page: 74

Deponent, Age: Jonathan Mitchison (as before); John Bell (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to the "remarkable high Wind about 14 Years ago" and the numerous oaks etc. blown down in the Demesne, Old Park, and Sunderland Springs - that they were sold by auction to one Richard Hodgson for £81; JM was at the sale with "many others", but did not see the "Bidding Paper" then produced by "said Clennell".

Page: 74-75

Deponent, Age: John Clennell (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Quotes chapter and verse in the manor records for lord's and lady's sales of "large Quantities" of timber trees (quotes from 1683); gives prices and buyers. Four sales by bidding paper and contract:

Date Where Buyer Price

1683 Sunderland Springs Not stated "about £600"

1753 Old Park (Fell's & Fisher's) Lucock & Christian £1331

1727 Old Park Not stated £2210

1757, April 15 Isel various (131 oaks blown down one night) Richard Hodgson £81

Page: 75

Deponent, Age: John Miller (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Has felled trees for the late Sir Wilfrid about 40 years ago, and has "heard Speak of a Large fall of Wood made by the Lords of said Manor .. now about 85 Years Since". Also re hedge timber.

Page: 75

Deponent, Age: John Miller (as before) (to another question)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to the bailiffs' various unhindered removals of the felled wood.

Page: 75

Deponent, Age: John Simpson (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: That branches blown down are perquisites of the Manor Bailiff.

Page: 75

Deponent, Age: The said Daniel Boadle, Wilfrid Harrison, Jonathan Twentyman, Wm. Pooley, John Clementson, John Miller

Manors and how long acquainted with them: Corroborate

Page: 75

Deponent, Age: John Miller (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to claims and rights in the hedgerows; and as to tenants "cropping" the trees in Sunderland Springs, and what the Jury's verdict was - "That Clennel was very Angry and found great fault, but Could not find out" who had done it. The tenants said they "would do it again".

Page: 75

Deponent, Age: John Piel (as before)

Manors and how long acquainted with them: As to the hedgerows and ash trees [in them]