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DEANE-DRUMMOND John Drummond Lt Col
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Surname: DEANE-DRUMMOND;
Forename(s): John Drummond;
Initials: JD;
Rank: Lt Col;
Born in: Dymock, Glos;
Resided in: Nilgiri, India;
Previous Regiment: Chesh Regt;
MGC Branch: Infantry;
MGC Unit: 8 Sqn;
Other MGC Unit Served (1): 8 Sqn;
Other MGC Unit Served (2): 25 Bn;
Awarded: DSO, bar to DSO, MC, MID, MID,MID,CdeG(Fr);
Gallantry Notes: DSO: For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty. When in charge of divisional machine guns his personal example and fearlessness had a splendid effect on all ranks during an attack. He successfully took his machine guns through our barrage and prevented the escape of two hostile field guns.
bar to DSO: For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty. He led machine gunners, armed with rifles, in a counter attack, and coming on an enemy machine gun, he managed to put gun and team out of action with his rifle, being wounded in doing so. He showed fine courage and determination. (DSO LG 17/9/1917 Cheshire Regt)
MC:For conspicuous gallantry in action during a period of many days. Although in charge of a machine gun squadron, he volunteered to assist infantry who were short of officers. He rendered the most valuable services throughout this period in organisation, defence and bombing. He showed great daring in the disposition of his guns, and inspired all ranks with confidence
See "The MGC Cavalry in France - Capt t Preston - the Cavalry Journal);
Other Data: Who's Who 1943: b 1886, son Horace Drummond Deane Drummond, of The Boyce Court, Dymock, Glos. Married 1st Marie Lily, d of Maiano de Cuadra, Madrid; 2nd Lucy Margaret, d. of Canon ER Mason. Educ: Cheltenham College & RAC Cirencester. Tea Planter in Nilgiris; Capt RHG, Major, Cheshire Regt and Lt Col cdg an MGC Bn. Served Gt War 1914-18, MID, MC, DSO & bar, Croix de Guerre. Address: Kil Kotagiri Estate, Nilgiris, S India.
Commanded 8 Sqn MGC Cavalry
MC: 2Lt 8 MG Sqn, See History of 25 Div - page 29.
MID: June 1917 - see History of 25 Div - p 48
DSO: See: History of 25 Div : Divl MG Officer, Messines 1917 - p 78
See: History of 25 Div - p 215/6 & 229: Original citation - bar to DSO, "For conspicuous gallantry and determination. On April 10th 1918, the Germans having penetrated into Ploegsteert Wood and village, a counter attackl was ordered, but as it was slow in developing, Lt Col Deane-Drummond visited the officers commanding the units concerned and got a move on. He took part in the attack, leading 200 machine-gunners armed with rifles. In the wood, his party was stopped by a German machine gun. He therefore rushed the gun with a couple of men, but these were wounded, and when within 20 yards of the gun it was turned onto him, but he killed the No1 with a rifle bullet, the rifle jammed as he was reloading and the No2 succeeded in wounding Lt Col Deane-Drummond very severely. The latter, however, rolled into a shell hole and took on the gun with his rifle, putting the gun and team out of action, thus allowing his men to proceed.
Relinquished service with MGC, Western Morning News 12/10/1921See Article, Emma Gee, Winter 2000 by Alan Simcock mentioning DD's MC.
SEE The Cavalry Journal p 188;Other Notes: DSO: LG 17/9/1917 (gazetted Chesh R, but a "machine gun" action) bar to DSO: LG 16/9/1918 (Major/T Lt Col, DSO, MC, MGC)
MC: LG 20/10/1916 (2/Lt RHG - 8 MG Sqn)
MID: LG 22/5/1917 (dated 9/4/1917) France (T/Capt, MC, Cheshire Regt) (25 Div MG Offr - Birthdasy Hons) MID: LG 18/12/1917 (awards for France 26/2/1917 - 21/9/1917) (Cheshire Regt) MID: LG 30/12/1918
Croix de Guerre (France) 1/1/1918;END OF RECORD.
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- English
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- Graham Sacker
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