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Folios 192-193: Enclosure with folios 175-176: C.Ingles, HMS Buffalo. Extract from...

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1803 Mar 29
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Folios 192-193: Enclosure with folios 175-176: C.Ingles, HMS Buffalo. Extract from letter to P.G.King on 23 November 1802. Quotes the words that Lieutenant Forsyth used on November 22 1802. Folios 193-194: Enclosure with folios 175-176: C.Ingles. HMS Buffalo, November 23 1802. To Captain Kent. Outline of his complaint. Mentions Robbins Turner, Donne and Wood and Jones the Butcher, McCall. It was impossible to maintain order in the ship with such riotous behaviour so he confined [McCall?] . Folio 194: Questions put to Acting Lieutenant Forsyth by Captain Kent at the direction of Philip Gidley King on HMS Buffalo November 25 1805. Did he make use of the insulting expressions listed to Lieutenant Ingles on November 22 at 10.00 at night and then order Ingles’arrest. The language is denied but he says he is entitled to arrest a superior until questioned further. Folios 195-196: Enclosure with folios 175-176: Philp Gidley King, Government House Sydney. To Captain Kent. Has a serious dispute between Ingles and Forsyth that he cannot resolve but HMS Buffalo is not in position to hold a Courts Martial. He has imprisoned them until HMS Buffalo is in a position to hold a Courts Martial. Folios 196-197: C.Ingles, HMS Buffalo, Sydney Cove to William Kent December 3 1802: Enclosure with folios 175-176: Is sending the charges against Lieutenant Alex Forsyth on the testimony of Henry Gerault, Seaman, Ralph Stott, Master and Robert Lloyd, Surgeon’'s mate. Repeats the insults of November 22 1803. Folios 198-199: Enclosure with folios 175-176: Charles Ingles, HMS Buffalo, Sydney Cove, Port Jackson, New South Wales. November 23 1802. He is sending the statement by Pat Archibald Marine, HMS Buffalo about November 22 1802, He ordered Serjeant Vann to put a stop to the quarrel he heard in the Marine Berth but Vann was excessively drunk and he exacerbated the quarrel by abusing the woman belonging to the Quarter Master. Pat Archibald joined in the abuse. Forsyth struck Archibald and ordered him to stop but he refused so he shackled him and returned to his duties on deck. Mr Rawlins later informed him of the attack on his character while he was on deck so he asks for a Courts Martial to clear himself. This is followed by a similar statement from Alexander Forsyth. Folios 199-200: Enclosure with folios 175-176: Statements by R.D.Rawlins. Charles Ingles and Robert Lloyd about the events on November 22 1802. Folios 200-202: Statements collected by Philip Gidley King, Government House, Sydney, November 24 1802. Statements from Henry Gerault about the events of November 221803. Charles Ingles states that it was not the first time such epithets had been used against him. A second statement by Charles Ingles states that Marine Wood was detected in a theft as seen by Roger Beat.

Mr McCall and James the Butcher are mentioned and he states that it is impossible for him to continue to work in the light of such riotous behaviour. Account of interview by Captain Kent with Acting Lieutenant Forsyth as to whether a junior Officer could arrest a senior Officer. King states that although he should have stayed at Paramatta, this unpleasant business made him stay in Sydney. However he has not been able to resolve it and he has to go to Hawkesburg so these are the directions he gave. As a Courts Martial is impossible and in view of the foul allegations between Forsyth and Ingles, he is referring it to a Civil court. Lieutenant Forsyth could have communicated with a senior Officer before arresting Ingles. He must be put under arrest until HMS Buffalo reaches somewhere for a Courts Martial. Folios 202-203: Enclosure with folios 175-176: Charles Ingles, HMS Buffalo, Sydney Cove. To Captain Kent, December 3 1802. A list of the charges against Alexander Forsyth. Folios 203-205: Enclosure with folios 175-176: Phillip Gidley King, Sydney, New South Wales. A Court of Enquiry was held at Government House on 28 and 29 January 1803. After hearing witnesses, he has decided that Forsyth and Archibald (both under arrest) and Ingles be sent to England on HMS Glatton along with Stott, Gerault, Lloyd, Armstrong and Rawlins and Mrs Archibald as witnesses. Folios 206-210: Enclosure with folios 175-176: James Robinson Officiating Judge, Court of Enquiry, Government House. With William Kent, Philip King, and James Colnett of HMS Glatton. Question and answer from Stott, Ingles, Forsyth, Lloyd, and Archibald. Discussion of the alleged affair between Ellison and Ingles on the voyage from the Cape of Good Hope with witness statements from Elizabeth Archibald and others.

Folio 209: Enclosure with folios 175-176: Lieutenant Ingles sworn before Richard Atkins and Thomas Jasmin. Statement about the impact of the accusations and that his unblemished record must show every decent person that it is false. Folio 210: Enclosure with folios 175-176: Copy of Folios 203-205. Folio 211: blank Folios 212-214: Enclosure with folios 175-176: D.W.Chapman. True copy of folios 203-205: Folios 214-217: Enclosure with folios 175-176: account of the Court of Enquiry held 30 March 1803: James Colnett, HMS Glatton, President. Philip King, HMS Buffalo, William Kent seconded Captain of HMS Buffalo. Evidence from Ralph Stott, Henry Gerrault and Lloyd. that Ingles boasted about Ellison sleeping in his bed. He saw them caressing and embracing on the quarterdeck and locker room. Questioning of him and other witnesses about the arrest of Ingles. Folio 218: Enclosure with folios 175-176: Phillip Gidley King, HMS Buffalo, Sydney Cove. April 9 1803. To James Colnett HMS Glatton. List of 12 prisoners and witnesses who have been sent to London along with two sick sailors although Ingles is going in the Greenwich whaler. He asks permission to send them to HMS Glatton. He asks for some replacements. Folios 219-221: Enclosure with folios 175-176: Copy of folio 218. Copies of the orders relating to the movement of personel between HMS Glatton, Buffalo and the Greenwich whaler.

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